Brand Builders
Scaling an eCommerce brand is hard. The intention for this podcast is simple; to have interesting, insightful & authentic conversations with successful brand builders. We want to provide real world stories and helpful, practical information about what’s currently working to help you build your own seven and eight figure brand. We release an episode every week on Sunday afternoon, so if you’re looking for actionable, no BS eCom insights, hit subscribe and stay tuned!
Episodes

7 days ago
7 days ago
She helps scale high-ticket funnels to eight figures a year.And has worked with billion-dollar brands like Wayflyer, Linktree, and Kogan.Today’s guest is Alisha Conlin-Hurd, founder of Persuasion Experience — a performance marketing agency specialising in paid traffic funnels for high-ticket offers.In this episode, we unpack:🔥 The funnel structures that actually convert in 2026🔥 How to diagnose exactly where a funnel is leaking revenue 🔥 The confirmation system she uses to drive 90%+ show rates on booked calls.🔥 How Alisha approaches market research before spending a single dollar on ads.🔥 And how she tests creative at scale using her “5 Types of Ads” framework.If you want to scale high-ticket funnels with paid traffic — without relying on hacks, hope, or hype — this episode is for you.Chapters:00:00 - Scaling high-ticket funnels to eight figures01:50 - How Alisha got into online marketing and lead gen05:41 - Learning the fundamentals of lead generation07:45 - Launching Persuasion Experience10:15 - The biggest mistake agencies make with client selection12:45 - Why Alisha focuses only on inbound paid acquisition14:48 - Lead offers vs sales offers explained17:54 - Structuring offers that actually convert21:54 - Why discounts often destroy authority24:00 - Diagnosing where funnels leak revenue26:32 - The confirmation system behind 90%+ show rates28:52 - Why agencies lose sales before the call even starts30:37 - Why market research determines funnel success33:55 - Funnel structures that actually work (VSL, webinar, book-a-call)35:32 - Why most marketers write terrible VSLs37:08 - Simplicity vs over-engineered funnels43:25 - Paid traffic channels that work best45:15 - When to diversify beyond Meta ads46:49 - Why organic content still matters for lead gen51:59 - The 5 types of ads framework54:41 - Creative diversity in the Meta ads era57:05 - Using AI tools to generate new ad angles59:01 - How Alisha approaches funnel split testing01:01:40 - Scaling funnels and diversifying strategies01:06:28 - Lead nurturing strategies that increase conversions01:10:01 - Why Alisha avoids integrating sales services01:11:57 - Funnel economics and upsell strategies01:13:45 - The future vision for Persuasion Experience01:16:17 - The team behind Persuasion's success

Friday Mar 06, 2026

Friday Mar 06, 2026
Friday Mar 06, 2026
He built an agency.Then stepped out of it.And now he’s building a holding company with the goal of hitting nine figures.Today’s guest is Peter Kang, founder of agency holding company Barrel. He’s also the author of “Holdco: The Practical Guide for Entrepreneurs to Structure and Scale a Holding Company.”In this episode, we unpack:🔥 How Peter transitioned from founder-operator to holding company builder.🔥 What the structure of a truly healthy agency looks like — from margins to management layers.🔥 How he sources, analyses, and structures acquisition deals.🔥 And why stepping out of day-to-day operations is the real unlock for long-term scale.If you want to understand how to turn agencies into assets — and build a portfolio that compounds toward nine figures — this episode is for you.Chapters:00:00 – From agency founder to holding company builder01:59 – The story behind writing his book04:54 – Peter’s background and early entrepreneurial path08:30 – Stepping away from day-to-day operations12:42 – Why founders become the bottleneck14:15 – Building management layers that scale17:37 – Accountability structures inside a holding company19:43 – Hiring externally vs promoting internally21:32 – Managing CEO transitions after acquisitions24:35 – What a healthy agency P&L actually looks like30:01 – Understanding churn in agency models34:19 – Reinvesting profits to grow agencies38:36 – Lead generation channels that work41:28 – Building partnerships with other agencies45:08 – Diversifying channels vs staying focused47:06 – Why some agencies decentralize marketing48:14 – Value-based pricing strategies53:31 – The airline pricing analogy55:40 – Single-service vs full-service agency models59:46 – Acquisition strategies in the eCommerce space01:03:14 – Preparing agency portfolios for the AI shift01:05:22 – Why Peter moved from startups to acquisitions01:08:56 – How he sources and evaluates acquisition deals01:12:15 – Red flags that kill acquisition deals01:15:03 – The thought process behind structuring deals01:18:11 – Advice for agency founders who want to exit01:21:32 – Scaling toward a nine-figure vision01:24:47 – The role of mission and values01:27:03 – The best way founders should reinvest in themselves

Tuesday Mar 03, 2026

Monday Mar 02, 2026
Monday Mar 02, 2026
He turned a simple SEO service into a $70 million business.And rebuilt the agency model into something that actually scales.Today’s guest is Joe Davies — founder of FatJoe, a productized SEO platform doing $15 million a year, trusted by thousands of agencies and in-house teams around the world.In this episode, we unpack:🔥 Why Joe stopped thinking like an agency — and rebuilt FatJoe as an e-com store selling digital products.🔥 Why FatJoe chose to serve agencies instead of end clients — and how that unlocked cleaner margins and simpler delivery.🔥 How selling units of work (not retainers or consulting) made costs predictable and operations scalable.🔥 And how a no-sales-call, no-negotiation checkout still drives 70%+ repeat monthly customers.If you want to understand how to turn services into a scalable, defensible platform — without bloated teams or constant client management — this episode is for you.Chapters:00:00 - Building a $70M SEO marketplace02:05 - Origin of the name "Fat Joe"03:25 - From agency chaos to eCommerce marketplace06:35 - Productising services for predictable margins09:00 - Why traditional SEO agencies break11:21 - Agency vs in-house: which actually wins?12:51 - Protecting margins while scaling15:16 - Building systems that create consistent delivery18:18 - Productisation without sacrificing customer experience23:18 - Why most brands misunderstand backlinks25:42 - Revenue streams and upsells that increase LTV29:45 - How Fat Joe is structured to scale33:30 - Managing a large team without losing control35:10 - Hiring operators, not just marketers40:40 - The sales engine behind predictable growth44:09 - Anatomy of a high-converting sales call47:57 - Lead generation channels that actually work50:47 - Events as a brand-building strategy52:45 - Advertising success and Google Ads strategy55:50 - Pricing strategy and increasing LTV58:41 - Creating a chrome extension for SEO01:00:52 - Leadership roles and responsibilities01:02:48 - What Joe actually works on day-to-day01:05:43 - When to double down vs pivot01:07:29 - The metrics that determine real success01:10:24 - Marketplace economics explained01:11:51 - The future of SEO in an AI world

Wednesday Feb 25, 2026

Wednesday Feb 25, 2026

Monday Feb 23, 2026

Friday Feb 20, 2026
Friday Feb 20, 2026
In under two years, today’s guest built a GoHighLevel SaaS from zero to $200,000 a month in recurring revenue by selling low-ticket systems to contractors at scale.Today’s guest is Kai Stone — founder of Stone Systems, one of the fastest-growing GoHighLevel businesses in the space.In this episode, we unpack:🔥 How Kai went from broke, living at home, to building a $200k-a-month SaaS in under two years.🔥 The $297/month entry offer that unlocked volume, retention, and predictable recurring revenue.🔥 How he uses raw, polarising ads to acquire customers profitably at scale — when everyone else said it wouldn’t work.🔥 Why text beats email for small businesses — and how automation, speed, and simplicity drive retention.If you want to understand how to build a low-ticket, high-volume SaaS — without hype, fake gurus, or bloated teams — this episode is for you.

Thursday Feb 19, 2026


